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eXcentris06-13-13 01:37 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by SomethingMore(Post 11730000)

I think you're right. I'll do that. :up:

FYI, they added "The Evil Within" and "Metal gear Solid V". MGSV is not in the list but if you search for it, you can add it and it's part of the deal. Since "The Last of Us" (PS3 obviously) came back in stock, I made another order. :)


foxdvd06-13-13 08:04 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

cheapy just tweeted that the preorders for the ps4 keep growing...and have gone from 46% more than the xbox one to 69% more...


MFRONE06-13-13 09:37 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by chess(Post 11729875)

I'm not sure any of the launch exclusives are up my alley, other than maybe Infamous, which is getting solid buzz from the show floor.

I'd probably have to start with Infamous, Destiny and Watch Dogs.

As pleased as I am about where Sony is going with PS4, there's a decent chance that I wait a while to jump in...unless that couple hundred I have in Gamestop credit overwhelms me.

Infamous isn't being released until Q1 2014 at the earliest


Fandango06-14-13 02:38 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?


Krayzie06-14-13 06:45 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by chess(Post 11730098)

The Wii one is better. It reverses the controls for movement with the nunchuck and and the pointer for shooting. I always found the N64 one to be counter intuitive, especially on the classic controller where I can't train my brain not to aim with the right stick.

I'm kind of amazed that nobody else tried a game with that mechanic on Wii.

Anyway, I just got it the other day and was kind of blown away...your comment reminded me about it.

Sorry fellas...back on topic...

ah I have the original import on the n64. I haven't played it since the n64 days but I thought the n64 controller worked okay for it. I'll have to try the Wii version.


K&AJones06-14-13 06:51 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Hey guys

The wife found out a new "Xbox" was coming out...she doesn't care for gaming...and asked if I wanted it? Told her it might be the PS4 since countless other current 360 owners still have questions and concerns. But as usual it comes to the games themselves. Saw this over at GT and thought it might be helpful.....

PlayStation 4 vs. Xbox One: A List of All Confirmed Next-Gen Titles and Exclusives

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...and-exclusives


Maxflier06-14-13 08:33 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Did Sony set an official release date? I ask because I got an email from Best Buy yesterday saying that my pre-order date had changed from 12/31 to 11/30.
Another thing I am wondering about is after hearing about stores only getting x amount of systems for pre-order, how Best Buy is going to handle it. I did my pre-order online with in-store pickup, but my fear is the pre-orders done in store will take precedence.


pinata24206-14-13 08:53 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by Maxflier(Post 11730976)

Did Sony set an official release date? I ask because I got an email from Best Buy yesterday saying that my pre-order date had changed from 12/31 to 11/30.
Another thing I am wondering about is after hearing about stores only getting x amount of systems for pre-order, how Best Buy is going to handle it. I did my pre-order online with in-store pickup, but my fear is the pre-orders done in store will take precedence.

11/30 just means "November" like 12/31 means "2013". There's still no official date.


cruzness06-14-13 10:02 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by K&AJones(Post 11730914)

Hey guys

The wife found out a new "Xbox" was coming out...she doesn't care for gaming...and asked if I wanted it? Told her it might be the PS4 since countless other current 360 owners still have questions and concerns. But as usual it comes to the games themselves. Saw this over at GT and thought it might be helpful.....

PlayStation 4 vs. Xbox One: A List of All Confirmed Next-Gen Titles and Exclusives

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...and-exclusives

Crap I am behind my government firewall and cant see that page. Can anyone post a list?


fumanstan06-14-13 10:05 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by cruzness(Post 11731055)

Crap I am behind my government firewall and cant see that page. Can anyone post a list?

PlayStation 4: 72 Games
Xbox One: 59 Games

Only on Xbox One (14 games)
• Below
• Black Tusk Studio game
• Crimson Dragon
• D4
• Dead Rising 3
• Forza Motorsport 5
• Halo
• Killer Instinct
• Kinect Sports Rivals
• Powerstar Golf
• Quantum Break
• Rabbids Invasion
• Ryse: Son of Rome
• Sunset Overdrive

Xbox One Next-Gen Console Exclusive (8 games)
• Fantasia: Music Evolved
• LocoCycle
• Minecraft Xbox One Edition
• Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare
• Project Spark
• Titanfall
• Zoo Tycoon
• Zumba Fitness: World Party

Only On PS4 (10 games)
• Basement Crawl
• Deep Down
• Driveclub
• Galak-Z
• Infamous: Second Son
• Killzone: Shadow Fall
• Knack
• The Order 1886
• Secret Ponchos
• Super Stardust (spiritual successor)

PS4 Next-Gen Console Exclusive (25 games)
• Blacklight: Retribution
• Contrast
• Daylight
• DC Universe Online
• Diablo III
• Doki-Doki Universe
• Don't Starve
• Final Fantasy XIV
• Hohokum
• Mercenary Kings
• Octodad: Dadliest Catch
• Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee New ‘n’ Tasty
• Outlast
• The Pinball Arcade
• Planetside 2
• Primal Carnage: Genesis
• Project Heart and Soul
• Ray's the Dead
• Rocketbirds 2: Evolution
• Super Motherload
• Tiny Brains
• Transistor
• War Thunder
• Warframe
• The Witness

Multi-Platform (37 games)
• Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
• Battlefield 4
• Call of Duty: Ghosts
• Carmageddon: Reincarnation
• The Crew
• Cyberpunk 2077
• Destiny
• Dragon Age: Inquisition
• Dying Light
• The Elder Scrolls Online
• The Evil Within
• FIFA 14
• Final Fantasy XV
• Just Dance 2014
• Kingdom Hearts 3
• LEGO Marvel Superheroes
• Lords of the Fallen
• Mad Max
• Madden NFL 25
• Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
• Mirror's Edge
• NBA 2K14
• NBA Live 14
• Need for Speed: Rivals
• Rainbow 6: Patriots
• Shadow Warrior
• Skylanders: Swap Force
• Sniper Elite 3
• Star Wars: Battlefront
• Thief
• Tom Clancy's The Division
• Trials Fusion
• UFC
• Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade
• Watch Dogs
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
• Wolfenstein: The New Order


Music06-14-13 10:19 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by Maxflier(Post 11730976)

Did Sony set an official release date?

No, they just said Holidays.


cruzness06-14-13 11:36 AM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Thanks fumanstan


eXcentris06-14-13 12:25 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

I just read that the PS4 will not be backwards compatible. Not that I own a bazillion games (more like 5 or 6 :) ) but there are a few, like the Uncharted series, I'd like to play again in the future. Are you guys going to keep your PS3? Or are you going to hope that the games you want to replay will be available, at some point, on this Gakai (or whatever it's called) streaming service? And if you do own physical copies of the PS3 games, will you be able to stream/download them for free?


fujishig06-14-13 12:27 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Since the PS3 is still a good Blu ray player (and unless there's a significant added feature I'd rather not burden my shiny new launch console with that), I'll keep it around.

How is Plus going to work now? I know that the sub model goes to the PS4, but are all the free games still usable on my PS3 until it croaks?


Dan06-14-13 12:30 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by eXcentris(Post 11731249)

I just read that the PS4 will not be backwards compatible. Not that I own a bazillion games (more like 5 or 6 :) ) but there are a few, like the Uncharted series, I'd like to play again in the future. Are you guys going to keep your PS3? Or are you going to hope that the games you want to replay will be available, at some point, on this Gakai (or whatever it's called) streaming service? And if you do own physical copies of the PS3 games, will you be able to stream/download them for free?

Gaikai is your best bet. I doubt they'll give you the game for free if you have the disc, as they can't verify that each disc is only ever used once to redeem a Gaikai copy. You will not be able to download the game (that would require an emulator to run properly, and they've said so far they're not doing that). So Gaikai will stream the video to you, but you control the game with your PS4. That requires a persistent internet connection, and if you want decent quality, I'd expect the same bandwidth as Vudu HDX, so 4.5mbps or better.


bunkaroo06-14-13 01:19 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

I'll be keeping my PS3 for a good long while. Still have quite the unplayed pile in addition to wanting ot be able to play the Uncharted, GTA and various others again. Plus I've just freed up a port on my HDMI switch previously occupied by my now retired HD DVD player. :)


RichC206-14-13 01:22 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by SomethingMore(Post 11731260)

Gaikai is your best bet. I doubt they'll give you the game for free if you have the disc, as they can't verify that each disc is only ever used once to redeem a Gaikai copy. You will not be able to download the game (that would require an emulator to run properly, and they've said so far they're not doing that). So Gaikai will stream the video to you, but you control the game with your PS4. That requires a persistent internet connection, and if you want decent quality, I'd expect the same bandwidth as Vudu HDX, so 4.5mbps or better.

That's the general concept, it's OnLive dedicated to Playstation, PS2 and PS3 games.

Though like Vudu I'm sure there's a way to get a serial from a disc so you don't just pass it around, so there is a chance you could "unlock" your games in Gaikai. I'm still hoping for a $20/month unlimited use subscription service.

Gaikai is still a big question mark though, and it's very interesting to me.


eXcentris06-14-13 01:34 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Ok thanks for the info. Looks like I'll be keeping my PS3 around for a while. I've been searching for info on this Gaikai service and there's nothing aside from generic statements about "game streaming will be provided by Gaikai, giving access to plenty of "critically acclaimed" PS3 and PS4 games."


cruzness06-14-13 02:13 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by eXcentris(Post 11731249)

I just read that the PS4 will not be backwards compatible. Not that I own a bazillion games (more like 5 or 6 :) ) but there are a few, like the Uncharted series, I'd like to play again in the future. Are you guys going to keep your PS3? Or are you going to hope that the games you want to replay will be available, at some point, on this Gakai (or whatever it's called) streaming service? And if you do own physical copies of the PS3 games, will you be able to stream/download them for free?

The regular PS3ers are keeping their consoles. I know I have a large stack of games I'll be going back to and they are still good Blu Ray and Netflix/Hulu/Amazon machines. Besides with a PSPlus membership, First party exclusives and Sony's continued support there is no reason to get rid of it.


bdshort06-14-13 03:02 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

I'll probably end up selling my PS3, so that means I probably won't be getting a PS4 till I play The Last of Us and GTA V. And I'd like to play Skyrim, but don't know if I want to wait THAT long for a PS4, so maybe I will end up keeping it... Maybe I'll just hook it up to a computer monitor. I just need to find a HDMI -> DVI adapter. And an amp for sound.


RichC206-14-13 03:21 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

You know GTA V is almost guaranteed to show up on both the Xbox One and PS4 right?


Supermallet06-14-13 04:29 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

I'm keeping my PS3. I actually have two, so I might sell one, but I might keep a PS3 and PS4 hooked up to my main TV.


Maxflier06-14-13 04:55 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

I wonder why they made Gran Turismo 6 for the PS3 when it is going to be released about the same time as the PS4? (assuming one or both don't get delayed)


Draven06-14-13 05:01 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

They still made PS2 games and systems until recently. No surprise there to me.


fujishig06-14-13 05:04 PM

Re: PS4 to be announced February 20th?

Originally Posted by Maxflier(Post 11731699)

I wonder why they made Gran Turismo 6 for the PS3 when it is going to be released about the same time as the PS4? (assuming one or both don't get delayed)

I'm sure they'll have Gran Turismo 7, demo edition for the PS4, with maybe a full fledged version available in the next decade or so...

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